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<div class="">Please use the LIWG Diagnostic Package Google Doc to add any variable you would want to see (and is not in the list), and then we can see what is possible: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FDbuGAYeXc3BHUkmGSc3x4yGrQk7ZsJS-P5PGYpg-30/edit#heading=h.2ynzjd46mmno" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FDbuGAYeXc3BHUkmGSc3x4yGrQk7ZsJS-P5PGYpg-30/edit#heading=h.2ynzjd46mmno</a></div>
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<div class="">Jan: Do you want to look at this and see if you have any questions about how to proceed here?</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" class="">The corresponding web page with links to all the plot sets:</font></div>
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<div class="">Here are my tentative replies; Jan, you can chime in to confirm or correct me:</div>
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<div class="">I'm thinking we can just piggy-back on the current averages – we'll just need to add some more variables that are processed.</div>
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A number of people in the LIWG have expressed interest in having more LIWG-relevant diagnostics produced automatically in CESM2 runs. Eventually, we'd like to have our own LIWG diagnostics package, but we're not going to have time to do that for the CESM2 release.<br class="">
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Most of what we'd want is obtainable from CLM history files. So, in the short term – i.e., the next couple of months – we were wondering if it would be feasible to add some LIWG-relevant diagnostics fields to the Land diagnostics package. At the very least,
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<b class="">Jan Lenaerts <br class="">
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